Today Joe is freaking out because he gets to talk to TJ Klune and Daniel Henning. TJ wrote one of Joe's all-time favorite books, The House in the Cerulean Sea, and his newest book, In the Lives of Puppets, released in April 2023. Daniel has been the voice for both of these audiobooks and over 200 others. They talk about writing, narrating audiobooks, what advice they'd give to their younger selves, post-apocalyptic queer puppets, and gas station beef jerky.